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Malrjing
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 04:49
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what such is step beside the tango and its value “for”?
these are “most secret listening post of Argentinean tango”, most important small key).
Each step before the tango is done in order to maintain embrace and to feel contact.
The same and there is limitation. It consists before the fact that to both partners it is necessary to attack across the line of its embrace before the direction of its center, i.e., towards each other.
In order deft and with the understanding this to make there is equipment with its entire logic and mathematics.
The task of woman not to adhere to some of position…, but it pleases it. () RK
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and than we then do beat music, if step is subordinated down embrace? can nevertheless embrace subordinated, also, for the step? than we do " draw” dance as by pencil? what there is an slate pencil? … it is good, one of the boundaries in order to maintain embrace… this undoubtedly, dance indeed conjugate… but this is small for the selection, it is simpler to remain on the spot, then embrace is maintained unambiguously and it is safer it not to lose
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Malrjing
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 13:24
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and than we then do beat music, if step is subordinated down embrace? can nevertheless embrace subordinated, also, for the step? than we do " draw” dance as by pencil? what there is an slate pencil? … it is good, one of the boundaries in order to maintain embrace… this undoubtedly, dance indeed conjugate… but this is small for the selection, it is simpler to remain on the spot, then embrace is maintained unambiguously and it is safer…
“slate pencil” is a replacement of positions relative to each other before the embrace.
I everything did comprehend, but why to change position, that we by this do strive? which our target? for which? … I help… and here not tango- whether figure we do wish to depict together, but under the music by steps after beating? not this whether target? and to check will give to us this embrace to do with this female partner?. . after catching from somatic and musical unison? … I so did not obtain response why partner makes step. . why female partner makes step… and as based on what he drives out, furthermore, in order to maintain embrace. . most important, for which it makes step… listen to, well question- that like simple… really no one thought not to time. . theme it nursed more than year. to. it was solved to lay out earlier. . it knows, will not give to … well matter… thus far we we do not acknowledge why for which EACH step, all will be before the fog as usually. it. steps before the tango as conveniently and where conveniently simple and to maintain embrace not there is a target, not to more simply walk generally. . each step - this of music, it is possible to make an adornment in the form of percussion strut… but why precisely step? … thus we are clasped, do rock, , we do tap by strut it did because to us simply tire to stand… we two people, which already half a year- year -two-three we do learn tango… it does resound music… that further? we do make simply so step? for the interest? why then it was so it takes a long time to learn? they force this to make vapors on the traffic?. . someone of them indeed did begin this Brownian motion. . and Brownian whether it? … well let although one partner will begin… I simply I wish to comprehend the realization of step, but not some is automatic
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AV
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 21:55
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He wished to write to you beside , but it solved in the form . Here there is nothing personal - YOU KNOW.
So it is here before the essence:
From many your posts and commentaries, and before this theme also, I in no way could for itself explain one: “From what we with you so in different ways do absorb TANGO? Why I would not write since you? Why to me occur other questions, but not those that to you?”
That you wrote about THE TANGO- BODY, THE MUSICALITY etcetera, and now also about THE STEP and THE TANGO - DANCE OF STRUTS, then before this there are considerable useful, but TECHNOLOGICALLY. As certain abstracted outside, but somewhat cold, view on THE TANGO as something out of you. You " prepare” TANGO as experimental RATIONAL scientific research worker, you calculate trajectories, combinability of steps, disassemble and learn by heart schemes (you will score as before the institute to the examinations), you train TANGO- BODY, but no before your words of feelings and emotions. All by you described - this is correct, but only before one aspect - this altogether only MEANS for the approximation to something much greater than STEPS, SCHEMES from THE CUBES, SYNCOPES and so forth and the like me envelops such feeling, that before your approach you sink before the details, “you see trees, but you do not see scaffolding”.
You and itself did ask the question - A FOR WHAT ALL THIS?
As here, as it seems me, I comprehended the difference between us. And it essential.
With you was built the different hierarchy of values, for which we strive. And the hence being differed approaches and means on the study OF TANGO, different evaluation criteria and different priorities ...... But, after all, also the different language, before which we speak about THE TANGO and before THE TANGO.
In me on the highest step of my hierarchy of values stand BY __ (and emotional and physical), ____, ___,
___…. and so forth
And all, which to me and at the point of you is necessary to study, with the identical names of movements, on one and the same lessons, in the same instructors and foreign OF MAESTRO, I absorb through my SUBJECTIVIST or SUBJECTIVE prism. Hence and another relation to the steps, the struts, body .....
In me entire your (for you very important) OBJECTIVITY of approach, also is used, but as THE METHODOLOGY. All MY study OF TANGO is subordinated down those targets and my values, which I mentioned. And each time, when I become acquainted with the new movement, or I seize new principle, I ask the question - THAT NEW BEFORE THE SENSATIONS THIS MOVEMENT CAN GIVE TO ME, AS THIS ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT WILL HELP ME TO SURVIVE DANCE BEFORE THE MUSIC, SUCH AS APPORTIONMENT OF RATES AND MELODIES WE CAN COLOR OUR EMOTIONS ........,
And the meaning of all my my present and subsequent stages before the tango I see before the movement to the ideal of recognition of dance in itself and in the woman within us of themselves, through __ in 3 minutes of dance and FOR IT.
And therefore, I you answer: “TANGO - this is not THE DANCE OF STEPS!”
: That I wrote all - this my great .
2: And the meaning OF TANGO I found - for itself. You have your meaning - in me its.
, all, what you wrote importantly. . before any conjugate dance - this there is to one degree or another… I I respect this approach, but precisely he does not give to see and to comprehend another beauty… the beauty of dance… with it is possible all to reduce also to nihilism, i.e., “but on fig”?. . to me is also it's a pity, that you do not see of mathematics of tango. . you see, but oppose about it to speak within yourself… you even you do not see, and before ChM a difference in the tango from other dances and cannot this explain
the fact is that any bel- less objectively gives the possibility to base mass to understand each other and to see a trend in development and training… when they train at the point of music of the musicians, who then improvise no one it abolishes solfeggio with the mathematical recording of notes and … I so did not hear response, we again rolled down to nothing…
I also can give the argument that your subjective approach gives as a result that the fact that you NEVER invite more than various female partners, it is pure at the point of the subjective reasons, for example… this also is not a buzz, agree…
Not my or your approach of … simply without my there is no development and understanding… even before that, but how nevertheless tango differs from another , for example… as DANCE… you it does not seem that simply no one can answer my question, because it was not assigned by it, it is pure on the ideological underlying situation…
It is happy, the one who does not know. ., nevertheless this not about you…
I will score nothing, I simply investigate, but I the fact that see further and deeper for me is all more obvious…
approach to any object does not please me, to substantiate it as is convenient, as sang someone… and the impossibility to acknowledge to itself that something not once… somewhere remained lad deceived…
Lan, these are all nonsense… let of tango not the dance of struts…
but we continue to stand on the dance floor with the female partner and even considered with it these views… further that the fact that, for which I make step and where…
I proposing not to reduce all down the dispute about the dance of struts or arms… in my opinion a question even more greatly it is simplified, so why, where why I make step…
I fear, that “by the dance of struts” I simply will give ground to the discussion me, instead of the tango…
And moreover, I consider, that your route IRREDUNDANT. . too SUBJECTIVE… YOU IS SIMPLE never SO NOT , WHAT is TANGO as objective phenomenon, to his and to …
with the training your subjective sensations must not stand in the first place - never and not to time… for them you no one will transmit all the more, you will not impose… this although understandably… my feelings and emotions must remain with me, I no one them thrust. . verify, they there is, otherwise me there was not before the tango already of the more 2nd years. . that on your post, I answer my time before the tango… this more than simply the words of the ecstatic novice… and your route - this the route of the solitude of the fullest and selfishness… NO ONE are necessary YOUR PERSONAL and EMOTION… you by them no one will load nor will justify. . not dialog - this is your clean monolog…
and it is necessary to drive off flies based on the cutlets… here the branch of equipment nevertheless, but not discussion beside the opinions, who what biochemistry of and from what…
you, , the same period before the tango as I, I do think, it is time sober to look against the thing, those more to consider publicly does remain not so much time… those, who older us are clouded completely or will be silent, those, who younger us them did cloud or yet not beside much. . from the force of men 5, who still can something express objective… answer me one question, you did learn TO AS A RESULT READ dance completely… EACH STEP… or all also something for you “flashing of struts” under the music you do see him only episodically? … if still there is no this skill, we each other will not comprehend… this skill it is possible to develop only if you will try all that there is before my list before the variations, and you will GREATLY MUCH look tango and analyze… necessary much to try very, to be able this to make, to much gather , much to analyze… differently given… you cannot arise for tomorrow and say that yes I did comprehend that are tango… then it does can we simply against the different waves and the level of development? and we do draw based on our belfry? … you went away far on the emotional experiences and the sensations, I on the technical section, for example…., in addition not that I know how to make well, but I know and it tried that this such and as this is done. to. that zh… everyone it occurs….
but I do not hurry with the outputs, I simply do pose question “for which, where, as why I do make step with the female partner”? and before this they are, what tango is and how it differs from another dance… but I I do not wish to climb beside the thickets… to me is necessary motive and reason down only one step… your by approach and by motives we they were not shifted based on the place not the centimeter… if I I dance the defined dance, i do not have it before the reflexes from the birth… and I wish no one nothing to impose, to pin, to humble, to prove and so forth, I can only share, that also as to me it was opened… as soon as to consider…
I think what to construct originally the hierarchy of values, without having comprehended building material - this … is more accurate, it is groundless and temporarily
you can as conveniently subjectively relate down that occurring, but that tango as phenomenon is objective, systematically, and mathematically you you will change in no way… and development and training precisely before this…
and the magic of dance and its biochemistry - this is before ANY dance, before each its….but compare dances not past this those, who claim down the liberation of dance beside the individual they … and not on the total improvisation - this also be before ANY dance… and not as far as possible not prepared him to dance - this also before many dances… and not on the music - then tango did not dance much people under music… well and so forth….TANGO - THESE ARE ITS ELEMENTS AND FIGURES and OF THESE FIGURES and ELEMENTS UNDER THE MUSIC, WHERE EACH STEP - THIS OF MUSIC… I OF THEIR NOT ! :.
they are completely trained, basic, from which it is possible to …
BUT BEFORE THE TANGO THERE IS NOT ONE STEP SIMPLY SO WHERE CONVENIENTLY AND WHEN IT IS CONVENIENT! … it is here before what the meaning of my post…
there will as long as be this fairy tale, we will be shifted before the development of tango not on Gram, but so by Budde to be trampled down on the spot…
so here to learn man to make step deliberately so that it could explain for which where when it makes step - this and there is a task of training before the dance….and not to give absolutely unnecessary variability and freedom “YOU can make all as you wish”… necessary to can and to understand before making something… OTHERWISE THIS NOT TANGO… and it is this is not so terrible, as seems at first glance… no one it limits illusory freedom of choice… but it very well sets the tango- brains, it gives the possibility to be based on, to understand and to estimate itself and others… and the beauty precisely of tango, and … and increasingly other….
note, many themes I raised year ago, and with them it was obscurely lowered beside the utilizable waste… it was necessary to wait, to experience, to answer very many questions… many raise themes… the same J&S….yes to powder it did not suffice, not soldier proved to be… they blow away all; therefore their posts not are more than of air… even posts my … I before this plan… me is desirable to comprehend
well so let us return to this ill-fated first step… and better down to the second… the first let us assume left to position dance floi in order to estimate situation and to feel female partner. to.. my. motives and where? … I will transfer weight? in order to go before cross . . why?. . doubling before the music or that?. of. I am aimed against other figure element? … it is how much i have versions? perhaps , or at least one hundred? … and do can only two from the base including from the learned standard combination, and the third will be my , my improvisation? … but I do not have the law to do his and is unconscious for each step this of music, this the figure of dance, this responsibility for a step of female partner and at the point of the pair as a whole
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 04:33
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not on the theme.
as this is nevertheless good that before the tango are their physicists the lyric poetries.
Before this there is particular - to have a dance first with one, then with another (before the meaning, of of positions).
“The physics” of tango… they dynamic, fast. With them interestingly precisely before the literal dictionary sense. They charge music by ideas, express its complexity and many-sidedness for you as for the female partner. They show to you that you can. By you they also before this of .
“The lyric poetries” of tango… they not , they melody. They dissolve you with themselves before the music. And before this of ! To lyric poetries are important internal aspects, then that, possibly no one sees. Lyric poetries draw by you.
No… before the pure form there is neither those nor those… (but it's a pity) but… with the time, when we dance and grow, we form ourselves before the dance, we drive out something, something we throw back. something before the meaning of stylistics… We abut nearer the physicists or the lyric poetries.
The main thing so that it would be before the tele-, but not before the words.
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and, strictly, STEPS. :. well yes.
I about the fact that the realization of movement before the pure form, which there is in the man, when he teaches (he gets to know) movement… in the course of time passes beside the muscular memory. it consolidates there and already intelligence before the pure form it does not become… man it seems that it in general always thus made and “that here complex”. however, without the original understanding - as it is done… alas now and then beside the muscular memory they will fall originally and frankly “curved” . here then this is also the realization of step, but, alas… another type… (we will think, in all participants in the discussion all Bell and fuzzily and they include 1 version)
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RH
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 17:40
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I wish to say that with the training it is necessary to train to at the point of EACH step, then there will be sense, but not to give unnecessary pseudo-variability and freedom… if you know why - make, you do not know why, where, as for which - cost. ., first of all, to the partners…
you do wish to comprehend - try, but as a result then it must precisely know… you will otherwise always try, but not dance… so before what then the difference before the levels? … if each time each of them simply tries, and does not know precisely for which… I it is agreeable with The words, that almost all before the tango already called, for the sake of , and to … it remains to acquaint for the sake of this and to give ground for … and this is not so much as seems down the view. . all hoisting… certainly, well to be before the dark, but why to devise that which already by someone devised that being less examined tango BEFORE THE TANGO understood and so… nothing appears nor is born based on the ceiling without the approval OF THE TANGO- PUBLIC… at the point of . of on the basis of tango- science ( and ). . our illusions often, that we devise something and … simply to us is not given information… and when she it is given completely, then here and ground for , but realized… for long is dear?. to. that zh. . of two years and pair -three of of the Euro, then remain ignorant person and tango - and live as far as your emotions before the dark of illusions, thinking that this the light of … is still steeper than
physics does not interfere with lyric poetry, but lyric poetry physicist, but it is not necessary by one to substitute another and to … if lyric poetry - is the dark of physics, then harmony and there is no development. . not social significance not fig… this not mass points of contact… are necessary standards before the moved base… more accurate, they to eat… current only tango- village keep at the point of this by hands and by struts… at the point of virginity its and ignorance… it is natural, something you throw back as either complex or simply … that we now generally- that we make for the sake of your practitioners slowly… but that which is opened - this is wonderful and it is healthy… entire and becomes clear and … and the beauty there OF and points of contact and understanding from where of strut they grow… and standards, starting points for the dialog of scalene… it becomes simple it's a pity those, who for itself this not it opens, and it lives as far as subjective emotional experiences before the tango…
and when and female partner becomes at the point of EACH of its steps, then hence and motives for the dynamics and to listen to music by her, but not as to sheep to go above the partner… this is complicated, this not immediately, this after its orgasms from the conducting and subordination, from the stresses on and the disappointments… but this is as trail the way of the training
it is shorter, however strange, but following that is this much both discipline and realization OF EACH step of each of the partners. . exists steeply. ., can and will not come out, can and not beside the cashbox, but can , also, beside unison. . the vector of such and before this… simple to train to responsibility and realization of each step for which and why… but then it does appear and the possibility to request, “but on fig you it did do this step and why precisely so”? … here there cannot be response only “because I thus it did comprehend your conducting”… and music to you on fig, but the free space for which, but elements and the figures, which you did teach why? … and and for which? and your produced reflexes and skills where? in order then as sheep to ferment above the herdsman? each step of female partner - this of the same of of music… and this not a question of censure and humiliation of someone… this starting points for THE DIALOG, the understanding and the development… if someone was mistaken not terribly, if they know that they were mistaken… “error” - this is the unit of the dance, not a question…
it is possible as much as desired to sit on the elementary base and to sharpen it and to amuse itself by illusion, that it will help you and it is everywhere operational and it is different and it to attract at the point of the ears. and to seek only before the subjective sensations and the experiences… but too narrow a clearing - biochemistry ends because of the tolerance, and elementary base before the dynamics and the variability, which accumulated and , you will not attract everywhere
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:12
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about the step, it is simple step.
before the understanding/relation to the step to me was pleased the following, although practical use 0.
… Bruce Lee: “Before I began to understand combat art, for me the impact by strut was simple the impact by strut. When I began to study combat art, for me the impact by strut ceased to be simply the impact by strut. Now, when I studied combat art, for me the impact by strut - this is simple the impact by strut.”
step, before the tango, is simple step, the target of step before what, then other…
(steps this of letter, I I do not know the difference between “A” and “before”, simple to eat “A”, there are “B”, the alphabet of tango)
everything before this music, you only recover…
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 14:21
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Bravo!
the more you know, the more you understand, that nothing you know even “exact” science itself mathematics so she did not give definition, what is number is and that similar the point and straight line, but for the sake of all this actively uses and on this is based… nevertheless, we know for which we it is utilized one or other number or another, straight line and point, if am utilized… I it requested and “for which” before the tango we we make step, and not recently such “step” " feel the difference”, also, on whose side Bruce in this case of precisely practical use much before his aphorism in connection with of the tango
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yes. . during understanding of entire and you will then easily determine Ostap s and other pseudo-missionaries of tango with their new associations and claims beyond the discovery of new panacea… they will be so pitiful and ridiculous….no, faster, are amusing and touching… yes. . thus
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 04:24
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Niasilyl entire branch because of the punctuation, . But it would be desirable to specify on the latter post. If, for example, Gonzalez at his seminars actively uses the associations of every kind, that it Ostap , that whether?! But indeed all their instructors use one way or another! However, people not anthropoid robots, by it for some purpose consciousness is given.
no, - not Ostap, in my view, it gives equipment and figures it spun , long ago before this it is cooked and is the acknowledged expert before the tango- cenosts.
In order to study them and to comprehend equipment, technologies and superstructures it is necessary to spend much time. You should this branch - these are not manual, allowance or on the Ostaps. What I took in it me it personally helped, its association I use only “projections”, me seems, it successful and , I do not use and do not remember others, they were not put off, but I do not can to advise its courses precisely. Can to you before fig. it is not necessary this of the pitchforks Of and its female technicians, me- that from where to know to what level you wish grow before the tango and him to how widely comprehend. As far as I understand, special cases interest you, in order to then carry out them down the mockery in Of . . you not for the sake of the address, not your day of humor… to live before the tango without , probably possible… but for me without it tango formation would be waning
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 06:52
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I requested and “for which” before the tango we make the step
it is exclusive for the fact that TO DANCE
it is possible, of course, simply to or still what to do under the music, here only tango (yes even generally by dance) this will name complicatedly
, you do remember the Nautilus ?
“why to make for the sake of , it is the fact that simpler than the simple?
you - my woman, I - your man…
if you wish reason, then this is reason! “
alas, to you it is complicated to find the adherents: thinking about the tango, you constantly try to answer a question “WHY?” (apparently for achievement something very for you important, and this by no means badly)
however, majority (about my observations) answer a question “WHY?” and because IT WISHES!
here and everything… and this actually is very subjective
, is not must general phrases, otherwise we will be reduced down again nothing… of and also dance before the close embrace ball and sport also… I partly, for example, request in precise conformity to TANGO… I I do not request “why to dance tango”, but I request “for which as, why you make step before the tango”
Argon wrote (a):
it is possible, of course, simply to or still what to do under the music, here is only tango (yes even generally by dance)
and that you do name precisely tango and its difference from “generally dance” purely based on the side, if it is possible? … but then nevertheless return to the chief problem,
I do not think that my motives and targets can be determining generally- that before a simple question, it is at first glance
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 22:32
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any dance - this is accomplishing , one before it inherent technical movements (determined, distinctive for the dance, by formulating the corps, by the debris of strut, by the work of foot the rest) under the music with the characteristic rhythmic figure
accordingly, tango - this is threading tango- steps and tango- turnings down .
to describe “purely technical side” of this process I hinder - not forum format will come out…
concerning the question
Quotation:
for which as, why you make step before the tango
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- for the fact that, as I already spoke, to dance tango (well, it pleases me this …)
if you disturbs view from the point of view “of leader”, then
- the first point remains before,
- as it depends on the reverberating music, beyond that, whom I conduct also from the fact that is created all around on the dance floor
only I fear, these responses to you also will not be pleased…
when you did consider about the dynamics and the inability it to support because of of the absence of dancing body, about of listening posts and other technical aspects, to me everything was more less understandably, but what you do wish here?
Is natural, theoretically a quantity of variations in the steps enormous number, but practically it is strongly restricted at each specific moment of time, and sometimes also it is reduced to one the only possible: everything depends on that where, with whom, under that you dance and that they did in the second to that (everything as before the life)
Why you do consider that not it ? the thanks to you is great at the point of the response
i.e., on your “tango - this threading of tango- steps and tango- turnings down ” BASED ON THE PURELY TECHNICAL AND MUSICAL SIDE in contrast to another any dance (sensuality, biochemistry so forth we let us thus far leave at the point of the limits).
I am completely agreeable step I I do, i.e., make in order to make “tango- step” or “tango- turning” and to beat him music, thus? … well so and if then, I must know previously before the step, such as I do wish to do tango- step or what of tango turning indeed then? … what “tango- steps” and “tango turnings” you know, for example?. . you say that these are precisely tango- steps and the tango- turnings… by what you trained what, in your view, is also, which you do not know… they are for you that determining about the level, what “tango- steps” and what “tango- turnings” you tried and what you to make?. by. you they will soon train, in your view?. . of what “tango- steps” and “of tango- turnings” you do consider that your formation before the tango is incomplete? how much you already do learn and what you are going to learn further? … the theoretical great set “of the tango- steps” and “of tango- turnings” - who to you this did personally say, why you thus did solve? :.
and the latter, AS YOU DO DETERMINE THAT THESE ARE PRECISELY TANGO- STEP OR TANGO- TURNING FROM THE SET, FOR THE SAKE OF WHICH YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR FOR THE SAKE OF ALL TO THE END? …
for example parades, trade winds and , that for you this and what set is possible in your view, after which you would consider that your formation under the care of on the theme “parades, trade winds and ” are completed and you do understand FROM WHERE AND AS do appear other variations and that this new precisely tango- elements, but you already themselves can with this be dismantled without the extraneous aid? to whom precisely you do entrust before this question? , only without the names of our in order without the advertisement or someone to inadvertently catch. . - for the god. our it is simple reference points (its , to senior fellow, to partner, only to itself, well and so forth)
there is no hitching post or dirty trick personally to you or to someone, verify
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 06:40
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There is the determination of tango, which put to use many the Argentineans: tango - this is walk two together. We are missed, after being embraced, under the music of tango, which would seem more simply.
For me - these are walk and conversation simultaneously. It is understandable that conversation from within.
There are people, which in no way can begin conversation, , , make absurd pauses, they speak inopportunely, they swallow terminations, they speak either too loudly or too quietly, with the inaudible diction, they forget words, they speak out of place, or too rapidly they chatter, without isolating important… and so forth
But there are people, which will say everything clearly and clearly, by calm vote, to the place, they will involve before their peace and it is desirable with them to speak and to speak with feeling about everything. They feel your mood, load by their, know how to describe history, to cheer up and you answer your energy.
Steps - this as the words, which take off from the mouth… If this of the words, not reinforced by your inside, but word for the words, on top of that if men it does not know how plainly to speak, contact is necessary to finish by rapid “thanks”.
It goes without saying, people clever, which know how to analyze more rapidly learn to dance, with charm, that know how to associate personally. They rapidly understand, what equipment - is one additional language, which must be learned and with the help of which they will know how to associate and to express itself freely and competently. Putting to use intonation and punctuation
There is one additional point, if it relates down the woman as to the sheep, conversation it will not come out originally. On which it is possible to talk for the sake of the sheep?
It is worthwhile to be liable, if does not cost manufacture?
It is agreeable completely, and woman neither sheep nor for the sake of time, and so it cannot be relate down it. The main thing so that it would cease so it relates down itself or she would comprehend that it can it not be entirely.
Thus, tango - walk and conversation under the music.
But these concepts must be divided: WALK and LANGUAGE for the conversation.
I make step in order to be missed and to have a talk. BUT…
“Walk” (Paseo) - this is the figure of tango, against foundation of which even simpler la Of caminata (walking), and the language of tango consists of words, word combinations and sentences, where the word these are tango- steps, tango- figure, and their combination. It is possible to associate by simple tango- language, it is possible different, possible refined, it is possible by SLANG.
I cannot speak before - language with the fact, who speaks to me before tango- language, for example. Before principle, this possibly, of course, but not before this essence and target is basic. We wish to meet precisely by the tango- language, which sets the definite limitations by its lexicon, by punctuation, by orthography, by music. Before that and strict frames, but before this and clearing for the improvisation and . But “clearing” must be outlined and understood, all the more, this clearing is in no way infinite and diverse, as it seems. Certainly, it is developed, but it is entirely not unsystematic, based on the ceiling and from the sledge hammer. All, which appears must be “proven”, “is evaluated” and “it is approved” by tango- cenosts, it is checked by their knowledge, “the science” of tango as dance, and is accepted as the having right to exist and that relating precisely down the tango. Otherwise this is simple “” against the level of , then where the proof that this does relate down precisely to the dance of tango? If you cannot use by all, this in no way means that you must not know it and consider that you know tango- language, also, in you there is the completed normal tango- formation, where further you itself can be dismantled. AS, with WHOM, WHY, WHY, for which and WHERE you will associate by tango- language questions important, even can still principal my for the motivation be occupied generally by tango, but they in no way substitute my. Because my question THAN.
I wish to say that all new is born before the definite “creative flour”, since much devised, and frames are sufficiently rigid. Tango - these are creativity and art as the genre of dance. Before it are styles the directions. Before it is its choreography, the system of formation and birth of elements, aesthetics so forth not we of it devised and our contribution was small, but it is not possible to amuse itself by thought that all this it is possible and not to know because of this and this not to examine, but to entrust only to its intuition and subjective experiences and sensations.
But most important, elementary base - is not panacea and not response down all questions. Knowing it - you yet not before the independent cruising. Contradictions are further - entirely not contradiction, but outputs during the development. Something it is necessary to take as and to precisely know in order to understand and to be developed. Especially on the elements - for this of word.
It is possible to use for the sake of 10 words, it is possible as - 30, it is possible 100, but knowing and sharpening it is infinite base, this does not mean that you associate 100 by words, you will comprehend them and will answer on them, this in no way means that in you them and allegedly 1 000 before the reserve only “there would be desire”… there is no possibilities and knowledge, no desires and illusions you will help… if in you 10, then possible before the potential there can be to answer also 20, if 20, then down 30, if 30, then down 35… if 40-50, can you will not at all be with them speak, but this the already realized selection to throw back 10-20, but to use these knowledge in order to understand and to estimate the dance of and the beauty of tango as dance, creativity and precisely before the tango, not of tango as to art and to genre.
I nothing can prove groundlessly and impose my opinion, but if subsequently one person ITSELF confirms the truth of my words, and to him QUITE this nevertheless will be opened, then this to me it will be sufficient. To indicate that actually something can be opened with the fact, who is less than 2 years before the tango, who it does not seek and it does not analyze, who does not wish, or to whom it is convenient to remain before its “” (about “the ignorance” I I do not say), i simply do not have any for this authority… but I it is confident down 100%, that I laws.
With the fact, who less or so did not comprehend, I can only argue and prove logically, unfortunately…
It is possible it takes a long time to argue as to crank up beside the cross girl against what step or by it the very to there “”, beside the diagonal its strut or across the line of dance, excelling all more and more, and who what biochemistry and comfort from this catches, but so also to pass important and not to begin TO DANCE PRECISELY TANGO DELIBERATELY AND AND IT TO ESTIMATE. . cross - this 0,28000… 1% of tango- formation… well good by 1% but not 10 and not 20
, well as is complicated to observe this punctuation. . the flight of the thought not to lose
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 09:24
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At the point of the thought excellent, figurative and… deep, but with the punctuation and formulation is necessary each to struggle to death!
I think, partly law Valentina (Vale)… about the language (conversation).
Although, language - this is sufficiently the primitive verbal coding of the modes, which populate our heads… Especially this concerns feelings!
Charm of tango as conjugate dance before the fact that this dance nevertheless of dancing the means of a deeper nonverbal contact against the level of somatic contact with the very great variability.
? YES! Plus sensory constituting (moreover precisely nonverbal!).
I think, ideal is located somewhere in the middle between your, , approach (mathematical, scientific approach) and by the approach of Aleksey (АВ)… Here exactly are the alloy of materialism with the idealism. Before this hitching post!
Before the tango they are not separated from each other. To take them separately - tango vanishes… Either the framing of florid figures (NOT ABOUT THAN)… or ROUGH sensuality… Both that and, etc - is doomed!
I make simply step so, I try beside the music and (if this not simply the performance of sequence or still something) I try to feel it together with the female partner… is rare, but when -
Then neither mirrors are necessary to me nor video- I by inside feel WHEN THIS BESIDE THE POINT!
It set many trees
It grew not one son
It beside “”
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well, by those tango and valuably… that you find your. . before of training and after it… I, let us name conditionally , I open greater, in contrast to “the idealist- romantics” and “the centrists” I- that you I do not negate, and you me to joggle… I down your clearing I do not claim… here how we we are characterized by… I I do not fight and I do not set. . I ADD… although… if we take methods and starting points. ., probably yes… I set before by something… I I give fulcrums for the methodology, systems and understanding of eventual result to man, when it can become before the tango independent…
idealists negate me, and centrists try to connect incompatible and they use for the sake of completely concrete things tangible, it is possible to calculate them and to count… both before the money and before the time including
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 08:46
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Who aims you to joggle? Already not I whether?
You - fine person! You try entire, accumulated by you (and not only) experience to systematize, to reduce down the common denominator… This is noble concept. And it is not subject to censure BEFORE PRINCIPLE!
Simply technical of tango (WITH ITS ENTIRE IMPORTANCE) cannot contain all this phenomenon, by the name TANGO…
It set many trees
It grew not one son
It beside “”
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no, of course, it does not can. . b he did argue… the biochemistry of each and philosophy for me prohibited territory. . also someone it must on the reference points… and history and music… but only perhaps who it does give somehow systematically? … here current by forum we are formed, we share opinion…
but when man , that the tango something is greater, another I do not argue, but me he is somehow desirable somewhat more rapidly to withdraw from this person, since it will not hear my greater and other… remains current to hush significantly, to sigh and to be broken up each with its great, etc… this not of the point of communication, social significance and development… this blind alleys, since it is abutted against the sensations of each…
DIALOG of man and woman… yes for the god… but that you him so cover with saliva- that?. but . is intimal? … or they here teach, to , chandelle keep with to … as better yes this to make, and it a little more to obtain some and lewdness. . then relishes. . who for the sake of whom it was paired. . to not music also of with the technology and the figures - two objective things on them and improvisation. . everyone subjectively. . moreover, much intimally. . on top, but this already, you ,
in by of height, if, for example… it investigates all these energies, already for years… it against the level of the skilled worker OF and so forth….max before . although he does not know elementary foundations that not of not of gram… well yes god with it… well that this at the point of the reference points after two years? … clean subjectivism. . are concerned by young animals, and to us what to make… with whom to associate about the tango for the sake of normal language without the personal cockroaches… about the tango as about the objective phenomenon
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 04:37
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Before the technical aspect you laws. Point.
- It is understandable about the chandelle, you . I understand.
- Its said about the step. I will add only that I sometimes think combinatorial… I.e. when there is some fresh and interesting combination (figure, element) - I try it to insert/to put beside the dance “to the place” earlier (now also, but thinner) fell beside the meditative condition from the contact with the female partner… then the realized step - GENERALLY BY (i.e. delirium). Here dance suddenly by itself begins to and to be glued… as “on the pike by ”, here suddenly appear such intricate figures, that HORSERADISH YOU WILL PURPOSELY REPEAT… Unfortunately, for the most part subsequently they are forgotten… But at the moment of execution itself you are destroyed - from where which did undertake? Here to you and metaphysics! As this occurs - I do not have a concept, but noted only one… that it occurs this only with prolonged (on ) and only when spirit and body by they are freed based on the clamps… The intelligence of each individual step before these situations - is equal to ZERO! Paradox? …
Nicol wrote (a):
Before the technical aspect you laws. Point.
- It is understandable about the chandelle, you . I understand.
- Its said about the step. I will add only that I sometimes think combinatorial… I.e. when there is some fresh and interesting combination (figure, element) - I try it to insert/to put beside the dance “to the place” earlier (now also, but thinner) fell beside the meditative condition from the contact with the female partner… then the realized step - GENERALLY BY (i.e. delirium). Here dance suddenly by itself begins to and to be glued… as “on the pike by ”, here suddenly appear such intricate figures, that HORSERADISH YOU WILL PURPOSELY REPEAT… Unfortunately, for the most part subsequently they are forgotten… But at the moment of execution itself you are destroyed - from where which did undertake? Here to you and metaphysics! As this occurs - I do not have a concept, but noted only one… that it occurs this only with prolonged (on ) and only when spirit and body by they are freed based on the clamps… The intelligence of each individual step before these situations - is equal to ZERO! Paradox? …
. this . is explainable… of and . dears… plus of and subconsciousness during the training normal…
I will bring Nietzsche, although I do not love quotations, him they love to give without the dance not of day, they do not bring other: he indicated that any creator considers that there is illumination more than, that there is magic, its nymph. . as there this with the wings… and before. .… it amuses itself, that its someone there beside of , was opened space and so forth… but… he itself does not understand, that simply was accumulated the necessary critical mass by its labor… here and all. . and penetrations further and critical mass it is accumulated during the systemic training and the realization… all this of the biting, when operationally all works out and to . this . not magic… this - LEVEL. . it is not given “by on ”… on the completely individual style of … this entire is normally explainable… and they draw on and practically “make it necessary” there to go… because of the sufficiently commonplace… but I I wish it to more sound-wave… I not against not down the gram, I current above… and to practice there also necessary and to be trained and to catch my biochemistry…
IF. all partners, who you please, everyone understands my system, I am confident… he did not say, but it were confident… and video look and they are trained and they and they devise and expand they systematize. . ITSELF THEY ARE WRITTEN ON VIDEO. to. it saw… and your most dear partner… IT WROTE ITSELF ON VIDEO. .. . to me in the glory… of other not given not in order to learn to dance by tango good…
to hope at the point of the Russian perhaps and the pike command. the same . so for us understandably historically… our dear about the - fool of …
and - this is principal enemy to development and to understanding by tango as to objective phenomenon… these are fog, addiction, so forth… of can be only catalyst - as light stress for the penetrations, that you accumulated by exercises and by practice - this is correct and such and with me occurred
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:38
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Nymph, Pegasus - without the difference… Name although vessel!
Hence I see 3 pillars, on which is founded on the progress before the tango:
1) the school (not mandatorily group based on some moment), i.e., the technical, scientific study of object (including practice!)
2) (without the commentaries)
3) individual physical and spiritual training session (not only tango…)
But you are angered, , in vain… There is no here “muff”. Much (actually much) you dance - begins to be developed this “pike ”, little you dance - do not wait it… nevertheless it will not be. Since I became extremely “rare guest” of Moscow - “pike ” by itself and it vanished… So that there is no “muff” here.
Here plug with is very simple… This as pilot- fighters to prepare at the point of the combat ONLY on the trainers, which imitate combat situation… First real combat mission beside the scorching heat - and cover! … Coffin.
Without the real flights, before the real sky, on the real fighter - NOT TO BE BRIDGED. I know from the grandfather. It for long trained pilot- fighters itself was it, and the first detachment of cosmonauts also trained.
I do not know before than is here with you agreeable glory (although I doubt). It has its head beyond the shoulders, while in me - its… Each of us speaks at the point of itself, it presents its point of view, even when they not before everything coincide.
It set many trees
It grew not one son
It beside “”
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I am angered not gram, well you that
clean and flawless first . . - this is illumination… well, if, I already reject anything understand- that…
Glory not with me it is agreeable, but has the opinion that on spoils I hope the style of the author to you it is learned:
“Understandable also that this opinion is erroneous - on equipment can only spoil, it cannot to be improved (be improved can only assurance before the proper motion, that its own slope before its eyes is increased, but equipment even more greatly it spoils) well thus far thus far you will grow. ”
If for you - these are the place of training and realization. . and simultaneously - you happy person does can actually it is worthwhile to renew walking on ? indeed this so is simple
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 01:43
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If for you - these are the place of training and realization. . and simultaneously - you the happy person
Yes, this thus.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:57
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Apropos and clean on I think following:
1) A of they are generally necessary, these , otherwise? …
2) “it is not caught - not pilferer” and “victors do not judge”.
I know, after point 2 the pebbles will fly down me…
It set many trees
It grew not one son
It beside “”
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 13:01
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Why you do consider that not it ? the thanks to you is great at the point of the response
i.e., on your “tango - this threading of tango- steps and tango- turnings down ” BASED ON THE PURELY TECHNICAL AND MUSICAL SIDE in contrast to another any dance (sensuality, biochemistry so forth we let us thus far leave at the point of the limits).
I am completely agreeable step I I do, i.e., make in order to make “tango- step” or “tango- turning” and to beat him music, thus? … well so and if then, I must know previously before the step, such as I do wish to do tango- step or what of tango turning indeed then? … what “tango- steps” and “tango turnings” you know, for example?. . you say that these are precisely tango- steps and the tango- turnings… by what you trained what, in your view, is also, which you do not know… they are for you that determining about the level, what “tango- steps” and what “tango- turnings” you tried and what you to make?. by. you they will soon train, in your view?. . of what “tango- steps” and “of tango- turnings” you do consider that your formation before the tango is incomplete? how much you already do learn and what you are going to learn further? … the theoretical great set “of the tango- steps” and “of tango- turnings” - who to you this did personally say, why you thus did solve? :.
and the latter, AS YOU DO DETERMINE THAT THESE ARE PRECISELY TANGO- STEP OR TANGO- TURNING FROM THE SET, FOR THE SAKE OF WHICH YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR FOR THE SAKE OF ALL TO THE END? …
for example parades, trade winds and , that for you this and what set is possible in your view, after which you would consider that your formation under the care of on the theme “parades, trade winds and ” are completed and you do understand FROM WHERE AND AS do appear other variations and that this new precisely tango- elements, but you already themselves can with this be dismantled without the extraneous aid? to whom precisely you do entrust before this question? , only without the names of our in order without the advertisement or someone to inadvertently catch. . - for the god. our it is simple reference points (its , to senior fellow, to partner, only to itself, well and so forth)
there is no hitching post or dirty trick personally to you or to someone, verify
as many questions beyond which are madly difficult to formulate response!
I am occupied only more than 2 of years, in this case since January this year actively and realized I am retrained at the point of the girl and approximately year I in parallel master the wisdom of conducting (which, it is necessary to say that strongly helped me to comprehend the nuances of the female technique of adequate sequence)
before the directions exists, but to still work and to work. Experience of conducting on I do not have and, in any case thus far, I do not approach it; however, on the lessons very often I project before the role of partner, moreover with the girls of of the different level of .
I unconditionally entrust to my I will teach (as they agreed without the names) and to certain strangers, to whom also it is I look in down the lessons, moreover I am convinced at the point of each, that to learn in them is possible still at the most what… as recently read before one of (if that, you excuse at the point of the reproduction without the demand) “I dance 4,5 years. again it began to study eye…”
so here, I explained from my instructors, that tango - these are not the aggregate of the steps and figures, but embrace and the principles of its utilization, with the help of which are created many figures…
principles themselves not so much (you do not only request me to now transfer them! this will be almost theme for the dissertation) but they they give the possibility of combinational analysis and that itself on the dance floor at the point of which you you fight
(on the lesson like everything it is received, but even directly next day step-by-step to reduce it is difficultly, you remember only principle), this treatment of tango me completely triples with my inability to memorize the clusters
I do not set before itself as a goal to learn first, then, and still here this… me itself draws
to female partners it is simpler moreover: mastering grow prettier by base equipment (by including slack thighs and by the free struts, which you so you scold) it is possible to be conducted down the completely unknown, never practiced elements and to fulfill them to the pleasure of partner and itself by that loved
Argon wrote (a):
to female partners it is simpler moreover: mastering grow prettier by base equipment (by including slack thighs and by the free struts, which you so you scold) it is possible to be conducted down the completely unknown, never practiced elements and to fulfill them to the pleasure of partner and itself by that loved
. . we based on you radically diverge… here are already necessary concrete examples… to the parades, the trade winds and this precisely it does not relate… I I do not scold, the slack thighs and strut… I speak about : operationally switch oned and turned off and the need for shaping this weakening… and also about the fact that there are elemenes, where the thighs must be cramped… and to comprehend this it is possible, this variety and this need only by making these or other elements and by knowing them, trying, practicing and comparing…
not to tear contact with the strut of partner with and it to retain your will learn not gram… there is more complex , when you based on the discovered step make cross for the sake of your struts from the front or from behind. . not to understand skill “not to tear contact”, then you will not comprehend “but as and why this is done”. . in you there will not be skill and understanding, what to make, when to you they make to parade.
I do not say that it is necessary to know all elements, but the element base, from which it is necessary to be repelled much wider than you visualize it. But that. what after two years we cannot with you objectively have a talk - this and there is sadly… if you it does please only the process, then you will not answer but my question “THAN” yourselves… it does mean never for your motives to be occupied by tango they are determining “AS, with WHOM, WHY, WHY, for which and WHERE”… and it is possible to add still “IN WHOM”… and as you do determine your level for yourselves? by the opinion of partners, or its personal?. . also pleases the process… they down the partner and its slack thighs and equipment - this to not taste the sharpness of sequence and dynamics… these are simply American zooms never under the music as background. . “, HERE THIS YES… and of current that this such be- that?” … I simply entirely forgot, that I associate with the woman… which they seek only the biochemistry of . this … dance of tango can current the former dancers and “clever” women… common women to learn by tango dance well never can… to them they are necessary fairy tale, biochemistry and “strong, skillful hand”… , so let us mark. . to cease to associate with the intellect of woman we will entirely simply dance with the reflexes
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 23:42
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There is no, , to ridicule you me it was not completely desirable. That remark in was reaction down your sufficiently sharp down my side, probably, at the point of me actually then it was worthwhile to refrain from the discussion with you, since chance to be plucked down the sharpness it was great.
Response about is clear.
However, as far as my position is concerned, it is nearer to the point of view of nicol.
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 16:22
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it is thought to me, latter 2 pages the authors do not read each other. or this to me only is thought?
to me here based on the morning on Monday come such merry - “why to make step” -
1. we make step so that it would be steep. then the pair of steps in order no one not to kill. step in order to create itself space and again step so that it would be steep.
2. so that they would not kill. step so that again they would not kill. step in order to go away further from those mad, that they wish to kill
3. step in order to look, that above beautiful is there alien down . step so that your female partner would not comprehend - where you look
4. music is not that, female partner not that, tomorrow Monday. step it is simple so as on the spot not to stand also beside the back they did not push.
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 22:41
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although beside this discussion, and truth, after the sign of mind to count difficultly… but, anywhere you will not disappear, THE PROCESS here also draws me
now on business
if we do not understand skill “not to tear contact”, then you will not comprehend “but as and why this is done”. . in you there will not be skill and understanding, what to make, when to you they make to parade…
skill “not to tear contact” - exactly IS BASE, without it anywhere, without it there is no tango
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. . we based on you radically diverge…
I completely negate the use of of different elements before all their variations, including in the dynamic: It goes without saying, so that it is effective and it is effective to dance necessary not one time to pass them through itself (or to at least represent that such is possible)
but nevertheless, I know precisely (it underwent) that the being able partner can without preliminary preparation deduce female partner beyond the execution of elements about which it to this moment and it did not suspect
not to tear contact with the strut of partner with and it to retain your will learn not gram… there is more complex …
… also you have skill and understanding, what to make, when to you they make to parade…
and here here I with you will not agree: me they taught another technique of (precisely so I make, dancing above leader). - this is faster the visual effect of accompaniment, than the tendency of female partner not to lose contact with the strut of the partner: in reality partner conducts female partner beyond the step, down that or other side, and he escorts her strut by its strut, or after transferring the weight of female partner by down the supporting strut, but after leaving free it ahead already turns by its effort of its strut…
what parades, then I not at all understand before what it is necessary the special skill: partner stopped movement by his embrace, female partner arose, and its strut here not with what, she only designed stop…
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… and as you do determine your level for yourselves? by the opinion of partners, or its personal? :.
to partners I will teach necessary to believe with the reservations: partners frequently speak the undeserved compliments, and praise in order to maintain motivation to the exercises (although possible when it is desired to obtain objective evaluations), I so that no longer entrust to my analysis
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But that. what we cannot with you objectively have a talk after two years - this be sadly…
and why you think that otherwise
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to never not taste the sharpness of sequence and dynamics…
? why you do consider that the beauty of movement and the pleasure based on the dance can be obtained, having only counted previously where as to place strut, but without performing subconsciously, being subordinated down music and embrace?
Argon wrote (a):
and here here I with you will not agree: me they taught another technique of (precisely so I make, dancing above leader). - this is faster the visual effect of accompaniment, than the tendency of female partner not to lose contact with the strut of the partner: in reality partner conducts female partner beyond the step, down that or other side, and he escorts her strut by its strut, or after transferring the weight of female partner by down the supporting strut, but after leaving free it ahead already turns by its effort of its strut…
i.e. you do facilitate female partner life, after shifting everything down the partner? … after the 2nd years in you female partner so nothing makes before before the variations, he helps in no way partner and no skill to it for this is necessary and understanding….and itself it in you to does not make, strut it does not move to partner….… is not dense, you do not follow the development entirely… already long ago there are , where the female partner " helps” by skill not to precisely tear contact…
“Visual” effect MUST be unconstrained and from the base, transferred female partner must be, by the corps to show must… all correctly… BUT… if we all reduce only down this you too facilitate life female partner, you reduce it down the role of sheep, and partner then you leave before the role of the turkey, concerned and that stands before the turn to the skills of female partner it will transfer it weight or not… thus you then you do not develop the sharpness of conducting and sequence…
Argon wrote (a):
my more complete criteria and the reference points of tango- formation before the base for the moved level gives to this much great opportunities… I I speak, that this mandatorily necessarily… and this not based on the ceiling and not from the sledge hammer… and from the fact that you dance precisely tango… for the inspiration, of music and pragmatic embrace must be understood that precisely you you make and for which… and female partner is obligated to have a potential for this… all, that I speak, I substantiate; therefore I please to say objectively, and not before the general phrases
It does not seem you that we speak about one and the same, simply we diverge, that are a base… you they spoke about the slack thighs also of equipment… .
Say for what elements them they did specifically to you weaken and was placed equipment… and what elements it is sufficient before the knowledge and the experience to female partner in order to count itself before the moved level, once you do say that you do entrust to your analysis? Is there in you objective criterion some? You see that parades and already before your base, although not before the variability… give let us continue.
Female partner must KNOW, that such of parade and and that in this case to make?
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it is thought to me, latter 2 pages the authors do not read each other. or this to me only is thought?
to me here based on the morning on Monday come such merry - “why to make step” -
1. we make step so that it would be steep. then the pair of steps in order no one not to kill. step in order to create itself space and again step so that it would be steep.
2. so that they would not kill. step so that again they would not kill. step in order to go away further from those mad, that they wish to kill
3. step in order to look, that above beautiful is there alien down . step so that your female partner would not comprehend - where you look
4. music is not that, female partner not that, tomorrow Monday. step it is simple so as on the spot not to stand also beside the back they did not push.
… in- in… simply we make all its and current with what here of tango… ah yes… yes simply I proved to be on , already she became accustomed there to go
Say, and who the generally first did devise in megatons this great thing, that “there will be partner skillful he all it will do”?
It for some reason seems me that these were woman….Not to one peasant of such a delirium it can dream, also, before the nightmarish sleep
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Argan
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 23:56
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It does not seem you that we speak about one and the same, simply we diverge, that there is a base…
seems, , seems…
and still it seems to me that you wish to develop in female partner the rigid conditioned reflexes (when I make so, you you make thus), after lightening life to itself and after depriving the dance of unpredictability, which, , is boring…
certainly, the skills of the technically correct accomplishing of different elements are necessary to female partners! this makes their for the sake of those moved and gives more than possibilities on the dance floor
In the final analysis, who that did not say, but female partner - man, which goes by its struts and is turned by the corps by its muscular effort, and not the marionette, which they pull and transpose as far as the threads
You see that parades and already before your base, although not before the variability… give let us continue.
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Female partner must KNOW, that such of parade and and that in this case to make?
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if on them they conduct it, then them and dance
no, I- that exactly rigid reflexes to develop I do not wish, to namely comprehend by it that there are variations, also, without understanding of this variability, she never will comprehend nothing… rigid before you they already inoculated
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vinyo
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 19:28
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. you assign as many interesting questions and try to find responses in the same as you being studied. do think they they do know responses? I here for example - do not know. it can be it does stand above the responses for example down the seminars to the maestro to converge? their good - the first value - now before the abundance?
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 05:25
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Time is past, arrived the new level of realization tango- technicians…
Now it one of the good, and can be and the best partner in Moscow. One of my that loved. Before its element base it is full of elements. Something based on the skilled worker- classes, but majority it creates during the dance. And to me are sufficient my free struts and slack thighs, in order it to follow without the preliminary with them familiarization dynamically with those delays and accelerations, which conducts the partner, without losing contact with it by his embrace, by his struts.
PS. I know not one element before the tango, where the pressed thighs will help.
, if requests in the maestro of the first value, then will be obtained the responses, which will not satisfy it, because it even to them did not mature. , take advice, if you calculate by necessary, certainly. Take from the instructors on lesson 100% of fact that they give, even if this is not inscribed today beside your theory.
I greatly value people, which try to deeply analyze their activities. And greatly I hope that your analysis will sometimes lead you down that, down what those partners, whom are considered best on , come rightfully.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 07:18
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wrote (a):
I know not one element before the tango, where the pressed thighs will help.
… well and as… this… you sit on the chair before the short- short dress. and pedicles together you keep… so that there would be no shorts evidently….
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vinyo
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:56
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not, , I- that exactly already before the free cruising, what and to you I sincerely desire
, I free cruising already many years (more than you you dance:) I assign to itself questions and I seek responses. at the lessons, the practice, and seminars. beyond which I know why to the ides, to whom and with what questions. I desire to you greater freedom before the cruising:)
., well you- that comprehended, I hope what to eat grain before my considerations the common sense, but not the fog
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I know not one element before the tango, where the pressed thighs will help.
… well and as… this… you sit on the chair before the short- short dress. and pedicles together you keep… so that there would be no shorts evidently….
this of times… the replacement of directions - two. . of again will be begun base at the point of the ears in it and so ears as in donkey, not to get accustomed
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 21:56
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On the problem of preliminary familiarization with the element (seriously) this is what I think (, )
In female partners with “winding of kilometers” is developed the skill to be conducted beyond the movements conditionally new for itself (earlier it did not make, earlier it did not make and even it did not see based on the side). They get accustomed and not to fear. It is not important - that planned or not. It is important - it is conducted.
I desire to all beginning female partners of the partners, who will not listen to them and will try new movements on them without the preliminary “but now we with you let us do this”.
I not about that write what to be trained not necessary. It is necessary. It is necessary to grind off and to grind off dancing shoes, being trained ( of classicists). But… it is not necessary to fear new movements and to assume that the girl never will do it, without having been trained.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 04:59
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base is wider than it is counted today in us. . basic elements and combinations more…
that “best partner” he comprehended that something to prove to itself more expensive on the sum
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:54
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_ wrote (a):
wrote (a):
I know not one element before the tango, where the pressed thighs will help.
… well and as… this… you sit on the chair before the short- short dress. and pedicles together you keep… so that there would be no shorts evidently….
this of times… the replacement of directions - two. . of again will be begun base at the point of the ears in it and so ears as in donkey, not to get accustomed
Pressed - poor word. On the replacement of directions… not pressed… Assembled faster.
Simply word weakened in many is associated “ by rag”, and they weakened, but before the tone - guided, controlled if you wish.
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