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[TG]

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[Slafo]

1. it is must
2. >= 0
3. to judgment - as it will go

it is in no way mandatory, although it is sometimes good, if “is banal”





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now will arrive Nikishova and you all will astonish by what great and the numbers are long
I love, but I do not know how to dance. It would sit, it listened to with the beer.
Well once you already request, then seems me, must not be inserted during . It is better in the end. Simply almost no one knows how to dance . To dance not potentially traumatogenically probably no one knows how. So that better on the previous to wait when will be freed area and then to place. At the same time receive the possibility a little more to have a nap





In me here before the bag rabbit -.
- You will lie all, common to yourself rabbit.
- To temper?

[Mikishova]

It is earlier, how I remember, was placed before 0 00 or only later.
In my opinion it was very well.
Quotation:
At the same time receive the possibility a little more to have a nap
Before the current of to place do not actually somehow " sew to mare tail”.
2Bunny
I to dance also do not know how. But is beautiful to resemble under the beautiful music - very even





Bunny wrote (a):
I love, but I do not know how to dance. It would sit, it listened to with the beer.
Well once you already request, then seems me, must not be inserted during . It is better in the end…
At the same time receive the possibility a little more to have a nap
Personally I consider that , this no longer tango, before the meaning of of !





To me as to the lover of the ancient and authentic things (nowadays I it matured before the unit of the sounds, to delight in by baroque music of in execution very special bands and choruses), it generally seems that after the Golden Age of tango advanced the assimilation of the latter with the European and North American music, that also led down the loss of original and unavoidable degradation. On its, however, sufficiently empty lesson on the skill Felix 's agreed with the affirmation that after the beginning of the 50th, before the tango nothing beautiful no longer written (and even not played!). Well, this so - lyric poetry.
Decision is simple - to share beside the classical and the , for conservatives and judges of sources, and lovers to be disentangled under the !
. Expensive lovers ! I focus your attention, that I do not claim that the miller , this complete sediment and calculi beside me at the point of similar thoughts flinging is not worth (nevertheless not to )! You will excuse at the point of the banality - all people different and it is understood they must have the right of selection; however, (!!!) one smoker can damage mood to the whole hall of the nonsmoking people. Those not smoking must have the right not to breathe by clouds of tobacco smoke! must have the right to dance to the end of , but not to go away (or to charge, as it is proposed) on the middle. It is here , , perhaps, will extend! I thank at the point of the understanding.





Alice





Let be on . On January 2 so it was gay before the imperial to dance under the entirely music. Who was there - he will comprehend me. All being present somehow were revived and enjoyed themselves. And why not to dance the pair of , it is at least nearer toward the end . Well and that, that almost no one dances and is able. But indeed it is desirable to try. Or it is simple to look down that, who is able. But to make only from …. I do not know, who will arrive down it.

[HINJO]

: one is nearer to 23: 30- and to look, as it will go - it is further about the results to finish nevertheless by classics.
and it this is what concerns “entirely music” - it is here very carefully must

[Radicdka-cat]

Sentence to divide beside the and the me to please.
Because now and then is not sufficient time in order to logically " bring the people down ” - at least before Peter where common based on 19 to 23
This is almost ever impossible in 4 hours, I understand that there are , ready always and everywhere, but if we look temperature on the hospital - the well against the very warmed up public, and this is already more than 5 hours of …
Certainly, now and then there is such - that suddenly in the great percentage of - and then the atmosphere applies to all - but this is rarity.
, in addition and usually to of 2 to the categories of participants in - to novices and to old men. Moreover by the first it to please practically before 100% of cases tons to it is nearer to the customary music than the classical tango, whereas old men love those which are already are deliberately as far as the style of inclined down .
so that the audience of it is also necessary to beside the detachment.

[Mikishova]

Respected, again?!
Correctly whether I you did comprehend that before your post you do conduct parallelism with the tobacco smoke???
This complete
I nothing have against “ancient and authentic things”, but, please, precisely, that balalaika, which they turn on our (I speak so because is placed always one and also….then we are surprised why all they dance uniformly…. impression, that prior to the beginning of the 50th years, after which “before the tango nothing beautiful no longer written (and even it is not played!. before the tango”, ball are written only 50 songs. So that I rather named THIS “the clouds of tobacco smoke”, and here to at least in the end of as a good tightening of grass.
And then, your conservative simply enrages. I.e. the judges of sources must delight in by classics, and of sit before the beaker ENTIRE ?

[Radicdka-cat]

, Nikishova
request down the future to be more correctly





much more pleasant and more useful will see the reasoned response, than emotional





to divide beside and not , in my view, it is incorrect, because down the first no one go will be. to listen to and to dance one entire evening is impossible. and in the end the evening several of compositions greatly even . the lovers of baroque at this moment can go home, listen to the dear concert records and be glad against their aristocratic classical character

[Mikishova]

Respected ,
The reason for my indignation was of thinking again - miller “no ”, to the post of which, I please to note, no one categorically spoke out and no one added itself to classics or .
but before than the tone my did seem you by incorrect???





response my is completely reasoned - read more attentively
the previous post - respect

[Slafo]

Bunny wrote (a):
I love, but I do not know how to dance.
this zh of that - to learn necessary
But generally (which we together shared with Gustav ) that the special distribution (not music and of the style of ) down and not - before nature there does not exist.
Matter before the accentuation AS you dance - but this already .





and - tango is indisputably necessary. And they are important.





, about entirely the novices and those who before the tank will agree only partly…
It is shorter, if we do not place it that no one under it and will begin to dance never.
Me seems that retraction strictly past midnight - also bend akin to cigarette. I still converge to smoke to the counter, but here to sit and to wait, will be begun a good music in the end itself or not - here I do not know. But suddenly before the understanding me and - these are different things?
Me would like the insertion to be, also, before the middle of - let on -- of song, under the mood, but nevertheless.
2: from where 50- that (songs) did count? 20 from the force.

[Mikishova]

2 glories





Replace hate with love
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[Lemo]

Anonymous wrote (a):
to divide beside and not , in my view, it is incorrect, because down the first no one go will be. to listen to and to dance one entire evening is impossible.
But as in Europe do conduct , and even whole festivals “” and “tango without the tango”? And nothing, completely is gathered quorum…. And all are satisfied….

[Radicdka-cat]

Nikishova wrote (a):
Respected ,
The reason for my indignation was of thinking again - miller “no ”, to the post of which, I please to note, no one categorically spoke out and no one added itself to classics or .
but before than the tone my did seem you by incorrect???





discussion “yes - ”, “there is no - ” - any degree of categoricity - they are packed before the subjects of branch and forum
discussion whose that not was thinking, digestion was other the like - they are not packed

[Mikishova]

2 Lena
in Europe the people think widely…
and we lament only down the latitude of soul….
2
“yes ” “no ” - we have here not questionnaire, but the statement of particular opinions as to me it seemed or already new rules? By discussions and by the exchange besides the opinions of forum.





Replace hate with love
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[HINJO]

and by the way - I do not know, as in others, but in me somehow very clearly are divided on the atmosphere of place… for example, beside 2 and imperial it wishes classics, goes well and that, etc, but already before the guards only and to place in the Brest

[Radicdka-cat]

yes… “physics and lyric poetries” rest
1. about the fact that 100% do not live - we before Peter have a - practitioner exactly of such type - there not 100% but almost , , to , - very greatly differs from classical and has its audience. There is no dusty classics there almost. And the people above the fact there and goes. - very good version - the people breaks away and it beside entire, the lovers of classics not to and do not interfere for there there are not them completely. All are glad and satisfied.
2. affirmations of the type, - not entirely of tango are debatable. But by all they as offensive. For me personally this is theme for the speculations - I cannot unambiguously solve. I see before this affirmation the unit of the truth. But here, what these are the form of tango, of development, tango is transformed transform beside something third - thus far it is not understandable for me.
3. many know this word, but they cannot determine. Me very a question of glory - and that this with respect to your? - the given one year ago placed before the blind alley. Like and understandably and as far as words you will not explain. This is not the occasion from it to . But it is necessary to study music, to study the specific character of under this music. Thus far alas we just barely thrust nose beside this theme. , in addition these are not the occasion not to place to . But for example to also not in the course. Although I greatly love him - completely I understand why him you will meet rarely.
4. insertion of - beside the middle - a question of relevancy to its moment and the abilities of di- Jay, down not so that is simple to move out and not simple to translate everything back to classics. One-two will not damage , and they will raise mood to many lovers. However, it occurs and such that the people was gathered before this spirit that also entirely without was past on hurray. And what is more - it can and it stirred up.
This branch exactly to comprehend, although as here you will comprehend by head - to feel necessary, when and as it is appropriate and it is good to place !

[Radicdka-cat]

Nikishova wrote (a):
2
“yes ” “no ” - we have here not questionnaire, but the statement of particular opinions as to me it seemed or already new rules? By discussions and by the exchange besides the opinions of forum.
You will forgive, I do not know your real name, but to be turned on the nick is somehow rough.
Quarrels on the forum greatly is not desirable to spread - and so they are sufficient. I also easily before them get involved in, therefore I wish to apologize himself. Not before which measure she did not wish to pinch your freedom of expression of opinion. I understand that you of comparison for the sake of the smoking. But nevertheless does not wish to reduce the conversation “you fool because you love ” “you fool because you do not love”. Life shows that here to whom watermelon to whom porcine of - and these people will join never. And they will not prove to each other that better.
But it wishes so that on it would be well and thereby, etc. (Here here attempt to sit down beyond 2 chairs)

[Mikishova]

I will agree - before the middle actually not that - evident to volume an example latter in the Brest. Before the middle one and ALL - neither afterward nor in the end itself… and an impression of the type “that this was”
definition, study, distribution….in my opinion so this from the tango is far.
Very long ..... people found their and they began to feel and to live under this music. WITH the send - currents, direction, complaint on “this tango. and this is not tango”. And all. It appeared semi-official character on , , division beside the castes, the tango -….

[Mikishova]

I did not claim that the author fool, and what is more even so I do not think.
Quarrels here no one spreads it is not assembled.
Simply position was again AGAINST GENERALLY - which before my understanding of “TO ME IS GOOD UNDER CLASSICS, LET CLASSICS BE, LET BE GOOD ONLY TO ME”
that also caused my indignation.
The thanks to you against the attempt to sit down beyond two chairs - precisely such efforts of would do richer and brighter (not only before the musical plan)





Helga wrote (a):
and by the way - I do not know, as in others, but in me somehow very clearly are divided on the atmosphere of place… for example, beside 2 and imperial it wishes classics, goes well and that, etc, but already before the guards only and to place in the Brest
Bravo! Weak vote is heard! I already and did not hope.
As this is wonderful, when to eat a selection, inherent before large city - I wish this, or… no, perhaps this… About that here they try to break spears, proving, that exists and it will be! Which became the nondetachable (and according to some accounts) and most excellent unit of the contemporary tango! That not one is worthy to be the same without at least one, two, well or… ten ! Sincerely I do not understand, but why? If actually - in some place all did become accustomed, yes even simply it is desirable, yes even not only quite deep-rooted of classics of genre to dance without , for each other under the old good and dear melodies - that the truth it is necessary to there and to squeeze to tired DJ disk ? Why?! In order to a little fallen behind the life of those being present? It is amusing, that practically everyone, even advocates of freethinking beside one vote does claim that down clean no one not , but that thus? Then I assure, down with classics of there is much people. Why this?
They here mentioned - is it's a pity, what - to dance also no one plainly can, but music pleasant, even without the beer! Give instead of , to place?
However, I am agreeable based on RedTail - before Peter situation more complex - less, they last substantially shorter; therefore is absorbed all somewhat sharper acute. Although with the same (it is agreeable - punctures before the considerations in old man much) on 05 to dance to 6 mornings under the old tango not a bit did not annoy even to zealous supporters and to of new wave before the tango to music! But this is actual art, which requires actually sensitive ! But as to enter to those, who itself desires to dance and to dance? On this I propose to consider before the new theme “”.
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Personal fallings out based on the side of a certain citizen N, who thinks that she knows Spanish they did not achieve goal, however I prevented.





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aha, moderators do not sleep
and it is possible then to learn, why the observance of form does provide the inviolability of posts? why the nonobservance of theme is norm? why evident departure from the theme this is norm? why it is possible masked to behave boorishly, but discovered no? before what difference?
Nikishova
It is useless.
If man counts himself higher than others, then reasons are useless.
Emotions also. He knows everything best of all, it was at all festivals, it heard entire music, and it examines music best of all, and therefore has the complete and categorical law to voice its judgments before any form.
Do not survive, the very same from Peter, to so that in Moscow it most likely will not be. Do not prevent man from loving the fact that it found when that and now selflessly it protects from the changes. This is normal.





In me here before the bag rabbit -.
- You will lie all, common to yourself rabbit.
- To temper?





is good of . But nevertheless on its to me at the end, already down to the morning itself, nevertheless was not sufficient anything nonclassical.

[TG]

Slava wrote (a):
the special distribution (not music and of the style of ) down and not - before nature there does not exist.
Matter before the accentuation AS you dance - but this already .
Glories, and describe before “to equipment - young people” , if you please… It is interesting! Request- request!

[TG]

Thus far intermediate outputs are such for me:
1) the people loves and requires => necessary to place. Furthermore, the glory of the laws: if we do not place at all, then the people will not begin to dance.
2) to place after midnight - is late, since the by this time large part of those dancing (in Moscow) usually already left hall, so without having obtained its portion of happiness.
Honestly speaking, I am a little astonished by the readiness of some of that expressing themselves here to dance “the pair of ”, because about my observations the people begins to go away based on the dance floor already after the third composition.
There is certain problem , which, as noted Radistka-cat, lies in the fact that it would be desirable to construct in such a way that the transition to would be logical. In other words, it seems to me that very well not to place , for example, before the framework of from the old hissing records and : dissonance before the sensation of music is too great. . As it was here said, “do not sew to mare tail”. Therefore wish some logical transition, something like '---, and this already as the minimum three (25-30 minutes). And if DJ decided to do two and it tries to spread them on the time, then time down the supply to second practically does not remain…

[Slafo]

Uno Of mas?! wrote (a):
That not one is worthy to be the same without at least one, two, well or… ten ! Sincerely I do not understand, but why?
and why are conducted ? so that the people would dance. and people wish to dance under the fact that it pleases and the fact that by them pleasant to hear (not to confuse these 2 concepts! ) People wish poetry on. that is to say. It means - goto 10. no one in my opinion speaks that without - not . But this requires the super-craftsmanship of . And it depends on the tastes of public. Very much who noted that was not sufficient to old man the - filament of such, at least nearer toward the end. In me was here post about Holland, there I incorrectly was expressed. Was placed not only classics. Me Of repaired - him and I cite:
Still it marvelled to your response down - earlier it electronics played minimum 30% (true, with the classical tango was agitated it very beside the cashbox, so that it became obviously that classics and electro-tango - unit of one whole).
Quotation:
If actually - in some place all did become accustomed, yes even simply it is desirable, yes even not only quite deep-rooted of classics of genre to dance without , for each other under the old good and dear melodies - that the truth it is necessary to there and to squeeze to tired DJ disk ? Why?! In order to a little fallen behind the life of those being present?
. I will not recollect in crit. proportion to the cases, when it is possible to foist disk. There was such… long ago. year 3-4 ago.
now more on confesses “you above the control - you and brake.”. The so that out of place set compositions - this endeavor , I will forgive forgivenesses, to you.
Quotation:
It is amusing, that practically everyone, even advocates of freethinking beside one vote does claim that down clean no one not , but that thus? Then I assure, down with classics of there is much people. Why this?
in Russia purely to - to organize now is heavy. is simple because at least that . many speak that they would wish to dance yes they do not can. detail - before the technology of young people of coming. Jura Mountains, I promise to !
MIND?! - yes even on is generally assembled considerable people by places, regardless of the fact that - is declared there musical program or not. Already even there are on which they go also on which they do not go
Why this? Ok, themselves thrust.
My it is exclusive. By theses.
Music - not of the simple.





Quotation:
They here mentioned - is it's a pity, what - to dance also no one plainly can, but music pleasant, even without the beer! Give instead of , to place?
I do not here love particularly , in Moscow by them almost no one is ill, this is the St. Petersburg wash, which went from AB if I am not mistaken
To and to compare - as to form apples and boxes. To - this is another dance, which is differed from the tango just as of from the waltz or from the tango. From the same “family”, but other.
But “” - this is of the same tango about the same rules only under a little other music.

[Slafo]

Bunny wrote (a):





Moderator down the letter is counted that possible. There is no difference.

[Slafo]

2) to place after midnight - is late, since the by this time large part of those dancing (in Moscow) usually already left hall, so without having obtained its portion of happiness.
it is agreeable. far from all live before the victory.
Quotation:
Honestly speaking, I am a little astonished by the readiness of some of that expressing themselves here to dance “the pair of ”, because about my observations the people begins to go away based on the dance floor already after the third composition.
and can make a little less - 2-3 songs and it is good? they zh long as a rule one are not must - above to cortin they will take, yes even break - only you will be warmed up.
Quotation:
There is certain problem , which, as noted Radistka-cat, lies in the fact that it would be desirable to construct in such a way that the transition to would be logical. In other words, it seems to me that very well not to place , for example, before the framework of from the old hissing records and : dissonance before the sensation of music is too great. . As it was here said, “do not sew to mare tail”. Therefore wish some logical transition, something like '---, and this already as the minimum three (25-30 minutes). And if DJ decided to do two and it tries to spread them on the time, then time down the supply to second practically does not remain…
Super-question, Jura Mountains - respect!
Me - it was desirable to hear the opinion of the following comrades: Are (based on Moscow), bone, Of , Denis , they are (based on Kiev)
My on this question:





To alternate before any orders based on Pugliese, Color Of tango, El Arranque any - would not surely become
- by logical would calculate transition down based on the classical “not very distinct”, “the similar” (all before the quotation marks! pancake, with you you will become) not quickly .. of rapid tango or waltz - Sarli, Angelis,
Formula is not final and conversely very even approximate, is subject down the discussion
, it is necessary matter to translate - yes beside the sheet ale Kort to refer to, let the people express its opinion
yes, me - to me sent its creation “parting words beginning for the sake of ”, I wished him to lay out and forget- pressed.

[Tmidry]

Slava wrote (a):
I do not here love particularly , in Moscow by them almost no one is ill, this is the St. Petersburg wash, which went from AB if I am not mistaken
To and to compare - as to form apples and boxes. To - this is another dance, which is differed from the tango just as of from the waltz or from the tango. From the same “family”, but other.
But “” - this is of the same tango about the same rules only under a little other music.
Well simply no one actually in Moscow and learns to dance) "
This all after all is actually faster variety of tango, the same as tango- waltz and …
about that, “” - this also the very under other music - nevertheless I will not agree.
IMHO
this is faster a little another ideology of movement) "

[Slafo]

Dmitry wrote (a):
this is faster a little another ideology of movement) "
, and BEFORE WHAT other, why A LITTLE and HOW a little?

[Tmidry]

Slava wrote (a):
Dmitry wrote (a):
this is faster a little another ideology of movement) "
, and BEFORE WHAT other, why A LITTLE and HOW a little?
Well somewhat freer embrace. - before classics it is stricter… that- whether…
This is the great freedom of movement… in many respects due to the more flexible embrace… (for an example - if we before classics try to do female posterior .......)
one of the foundations - this is interaction before the pair…
well here as usually - me to more simply show) "
give in greater detail everything after all beside the technology) "
simply it is possible to dance under the classical tango and to dance classics under not entirely the tango music…

[Hadia]

my personal opinion.
1. well moderately - 2 long or 3 average compositions it is good. we pass back down classics.
4 there are already many, and 2 in a row all the more, even if different before the style - and - tango - type, French contemporary compositions and - too of much!
2. not- tango of composition of in the middle 1 (as this was based on Camisa Of negro among on Sunday) personally me (!) not they , it is better by them to complete. although it is differently. matter surely before the consistency - of adjacent compositions within one unit. as usually fig. you will explain on the fingers.
3. not- tango - of (completely) to me would be interesting, if only for good partners. for the music it is not banal surely (with the mean statistical composition). me completely triple with different classics even 2-3 by impregnations not- classicists (with the framework, to ).
4. aha, dances almost no one and like they do not teach (they do not teach well - otherwise they would dance).
approximately thus

[Lenhes]

Practice ( Prussian ) showed that wholly - this is nevertheless heavy. Although was placed only good and by me hotly dear music (actually, it listened to and it was glad), at the point of partners it was heavily necessary. That interestingly, completely is justified statement of one of the previous speakers: arrived almost entirely novices even 3-4 long ago (more than 4-5 years) dancing of partner.
Yes even nevertheless by it is somehow more logical, and , , to more complexly somehow assemble (Jura Mountains, I it is unjust?).
But to place it is possible and it is necessary. Depending on:., beside .. and from the place (the same milligrams of force it is declared as more ). And, by the way, what to still count - now written or completed.
If to the numbers, then on common it is normal to place 1 somewhere before 11 (something more familiar also for the sake of the sufficiently obvious rhythm/by melody), the second beside 12. ..

[Mikishova]

Completely I will agree based on . Especially apropos WHEN to place.
But that wait- now and then wait ..... already 0 30, but it was not and it will not be it

[HINJO]

Lenkis wrote (a):
If to the numbers, then on common it is normal to place 1 somewhere before 11 (something more familiar also for the sake of the sufficiently obvious rhythm/by melody), the second beside 12. ..

[TN]

Quotation:
Quotation:
There is certain problem , which, as noted Radistka-cat, lies in the fact that it would be desirable to construct in such a way that the transition to would be logical. In other words, it seems to me that very well not to place , for example, before the framework of from the old hissing records and : dissonance before the sensation of music is too great. . As it was here said, “do not sew to mare tail”. Therefore wish some logical transition, something like '---, and this already as the minimum three (25-30 minutes). And if DJ decided to do two and it tries to spread them on the time, then time down the supply to second practically does not remain…
Super-question, Jura Mountains - respect!
Me - it was desirable to hear the opinion of the following comrades: Are (based on Moscow), bone, Of , Denis , they are (based on Kiev)
My opinion, if they requested: Logical transition must be. One must take into account the brightness of composition, before latter melody must be the brightest, strongest. On it the dancers lay out themselves (especially To ); therefore to place contrast - “old guards” and all the more is bad tone… to place afterward To as reinforcing of effect, almost never it works. I after To place the waltzes (is completely agreeable with the opinion based on the site tejastango.com).
- generally, WHAT to place beside this concept??? Is music dancing (without taking into account stylistics and so forth), while there is music for take in, while is generally dull not interesting music - classics and not my categories. Complex - simple, possibly. Much classics dancing - De Caro, Basso, Mores, Francini-Pontier and so forth (before its majority), late , yes even is small whether. There are much material D `Of arienzo with the singers, simply disgusting down the hearing.
If music as far as the style, on the rhythm on the meterage (quantity of time) fits, then I place it. Sometimes it is necessary trim- to reduce the compositions of complex music so that this it would be possible to dance and so forth

[TNitri]

Quotation:
There is certain problem , which lies in the fact that it would be desirable to construct in such a way that the transition to would be logical. In other words, it seems to me that very well not to place , for example, before the framework of from the old hissing records and : dissonance before the sensation of music is too great. . As it was here said, “do not sew to mare tail”. Therefore wish some logical transition, something like '---, and this already as the minimum three (25-30 minutes). And if DJ decided to do two and it tries to spread them on the time, then time down the supply to second practically does not remain…
Super-question, Jura Mountains - respect!
Me - it was desirable to hear the opinion of the following comrades: Are (based on Moscow), bone, Of , Denis , they are (based on Kiev)
If already my opinion they clearly requested, to again. Without questions, logical transition must be to , just as to any other . Now purely applied of /advice. DO NOT FIRST, PLAY , place these compositions on one (as I wrote before the previous post). I beyond my experience checked - when shoved on 3 compositions work contract, the responses of public were contradictory, and when it became to place on one - it began unanimous “hurray”. And problem with the consistency of transition to will vanish - with such “mixed” to be turned it is possible as with the classical, similar from which are undertaken by 3 first classical songs. Further, if very already is desirable to play whole , then play - waltzes or - (latter it works especially well). And logically to feed down this is simple - as to the common waltzes or . But if without fail it is desirable to play precisely of tango - that 2 compositions it will be sufficient for , since these compositions longer and those more saturated than mean statistical classics. Following: in my opinion not sin , especially , composition to in order to improve their and time study (type to cut off the terribly long introduction, or to leave only one half of song, as I I usually make “El Tango Of del Of roxanne” from “Of Of ”). Further, it marvelled me that To why at the point of in you they do not consider… In my opinion - this is the quintessence of the fact that they name (the most excellent, but also most complex music of this type). Still which distorts - if Moscow of wishes to play , then in 100 cases of 100, even without a moment's hesitation, is placed “Libertango”. From where this idolatry before this song??? They rubbed over it already to the holes! - this is incomparably greater than (between us, composition- that completely ). Never will recollect so that on they would play in one-and-a-half years before Paris, and this in no way astonished me. Well and the latter: the given before the quotation example to the sequence of D' --- is simply terrible. First error - limiting point D' To - (too sharp a contrast); further Of afterward To - again gross error, since To is emotionally so intensive that after it is necessary detente (of type of ), but not to strive the people Of ; and already after To and - this is already more than error, this mockery above the public. Instead of this monstrous sequence with length before half-hour here is my accomplishment of the mission: 3 instrument plays of de (Felicia, Flores Of negras, Mi Dolor) and by the fourth play to them “sin Rumbo” Of otros Of aires. Everything! 12 minutes and everything are satisfied - lovers obtained good 4- minute composition (if it seemed little, then the minutes through 20 it is possible and one additional mixed to play; yes even under to dance on - no one forbade), and the fans of classics were not embittered, since measure it was observed.

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DM wrote (a):
- generally, WHAT to place beside this concept??? Is music dancing (without taking into account stylistics and so forth), while there is music for take in, while is generally dull not interesting music - classics and not my categories. Complex - simple, possibly. Much classics dancing - De Caro, Basso, Mores, Francini-Pontier and so forth (before its majority), late , yes even is small whether. There are much material D `Of arienzo with the singers, simply disgusting down the hearing.
Ugh! No, I cannot be silent, when Julio De Of caro begin to add to not the dancing tango! Well, there is this opinion of the author as a whole of fair (but by already excessively ) article - see reference from Radistki of cat before “useful reference” of this branch. Well and, that?! I think, great simply would not comprehend this affirmation - it even seminar before Peter gave under Di Sarli and De Caro! :.
I here practically always although 2-3 tango from De Caro, place and I will be!
And, putting to use the case he would wish the lovers have (this time without the shadow of irony!) to request - it is possible Julio De Of caro to consider forerunner ?

[TNitri]

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Ugh! No, I cannot be silent, when Julio De Of caro begin to add to not the dancing tango! Well, there is this opinion of the author as a whole of fair (but by already excessively ) article - see reference from Radistki of cat before “useful reference” of this branch. Well and, that?!
I am joined down The cry of soul - we will not make it possible De Caro to call by ! Its recordings with the sextet are splendid - there and clear dancing rhythm is, and the melodic fineness (not the fact that in iron woodcutter D' ), and arrangement it is good. Shame and disgrace that they insufficiently play on (recordings old, sparkling, and therefore it is much to listen to them tiresomely for the ear, but 1 at the point of the evening - holy matter). And also, as Volodya correctly it noted, Julio De Caro did not fear to search for new ways before the tango, so that completely it is possible to consider its cross father .
Francini-Pontier' and Denis also offended, in my opinion, undeservedly, but this is already other theme.
Also apropos mentioned article by Of stephen of Brown (http://tegastanjo.cam/milomgas_djsrone.hdmn): do not assume everything that it there at the point of the truth before the latter instance. The general principles of it more- less explanatorily presented, and this is how the concrete examples to their realization reaches - misfortune. Is visible its immaturity, rigidity, and insignificant taste. A little more on your taste rely with the layout of .

[TG]

Dmitri wrote (a):
Electro-tango or alternative play must be played when down this feeds the logic of the emotional development of , but not when hours will strike midnight.
But why, strictly, and no? People come down to dance. People wish to dance . To people convenient to dance , as are explained (in Moscow), in area 23 and about 24 hours, and then these people, which get tiredded, but satisfied, are loaded before the metro (or beside their auto-) and - home. So why by not to develop to is emotional so that the people of beside 23 and 24 hours, and would go home before a good mood?
23 and 24 hours - this, of course, a special case for Moscow - but in other cities also there is some its meaningful time…





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Uno Of mas?! wrote (a):
DM wrote (a):
- generally, WHAT to place beside this concept??? Is music dancing (without taking into account stylistics and so forth), while there is music for take in, while is generally dull not interesting music - classics and not my categories. Complex - simple, possibly. Much classics dancing - De Caro, Basso, Mores, Francini-Pontier and so forth (before its majority), late , yes even is small whether. There are much material D `Of arienzo with the singers, simply disgusting down the hearing.
Ugh! No, I cannot be silent, when Julio De Of caro begin to add to not the dancing tango! Well, there is this opinion of the author as a whole of fair (but by already excessively ) article - see reference from Radistki of cat before “useful reference” of this branch. Well and, that?! I think, great simply would not comprehend this affirmation - it even seminar before Peter gave under Di Sarli and De Caro! :.
I here practically always although 2-3 tango from De Caro, place and I will be!
And, putting to use the case he would wish the lovers have (this time without the shadow of irony!) to request - it is possible Julio De Of caro to consider forerunner ?
Well, this known - De There are no caro parent material, not , but symphonic tango - tango for take in (or soul, if you wish), yes and early its continuers. It excellent composer - interpretation To of his products are splendid. But, de Caro himself I do not place at the point of his ( in practice. In word are included several qualities), can, before my collection simply there is no appropriate material.
What I precisely ceased to make as for the sake of - this to worship to names! And if, in my view, hearing, taste and so forth music is not dancing (it is dull, not indicative, , tightened, concert) I it do not use. The people arrived to dance, but not down the lecture beyond the history of tango- music. Both and ale make also, I was interested.
Separately, I very with great interest relate down the band Of - - this is one of the great achievements beside the interpretation of the tango of music, but this, before its majority, the concert music

1. I did not comprehend that he interfere withs dancing to (if such in Moscow are, I, by the way, barely it noted) under classical music. My practice shows that before their execution the classical compositions are especially interesting. Before the practitioners the music places as on beginning for the sake of the classical to the contemporary in the end.
2. question Of uno of mas. In what year from your point of view is finished the tango and based on what year does begin not for the sake of tango?





3. new music there is meaning to place nearer toward the end . Not in order not to insult a feeling “of believers”, it is simple to place the new music, which requires the greater freedom of movements, on the oppressed dance floor, it is foolish. This means to drive in people by struts. And so with the traffic of problem. But toward the end , dance floor are begun and to eat space for self expression. If is half-empty, then completely will approach the formula Of Of or even any, to judgment DJ.
4. new tango - is not mandatory electrical. Many for some reason think that new - this is of . Under the electrical music, by the way, to dance most simply. Maybe; therefore it is so popular the medium of young people?
DJ driven out contemporary compositions must be not of those considerations, that music is beautiful, but from those so that the rhythmic structure of tango would be expressed. Cannot be otherwise danced practically.
Me they recently requested to place to pair dance under . It was necessary to extend the mass of efforts in order to explain that this is practically impossible.

[Moshu]

DM wrote (a):
Separately, I very with great interest relate down the band Of - - this is one of the great achievements beside the interpretation of the tango of music, but this, before its majority, the concert music
Well de penalty i have also not much and very scabby quality - therefore I him in essence do not use, but here is - - remarkable band and I him use very frequently in my view.
But concerning music - well if long - hours 6-7 - is possible even 2 , and on common 3-4 of hour of one it is as a rule sufficient
concerning as to conduct down - here it is in different ways - also it is different - idea d - - - electro-tango - it does not please me. Because d - active band (active rhythm) - To (energetic melodics) - - in it to any product pours over by improbable power engineering, and this as a rule active electronic tango (I simply it did not hear calm electronics) this plus minus the hour of - children, yes if still and was canneded after this combination, that to take out all will have. But furthermore - this is already , I, personally, never placing to by mortise block. it is here necessary to drive out - if to before this it went energetic unit - then slow (type of , then anything more living and it can be some electronics not ), if the previous unit was conversely calm - that there can be electronics or , but any contemporary bands - one condition - composition it must be too long - 6 minutes this too. And compositions must be beautiful - then they are danced, therefore as one matter electronics to place before the cafe for the background, where the people of coffee drinks and at the point of the life converses and, and entirely another - on the dance floor
And that truth, then is truth - as a rule goes nearer toward the end - when a certain supersaturation for the sake of classics before the active mass attacks and it is necessary to shoot down this attitude. this somewhere before 11: 15- 11:30. But here if long - then one somewhere 2,5 hours after beginning and the second - somewhere on the fifth to hour - before the dependence beyond the fact that occurs on the dance floor
wrote (a):
New tango - is not mandatory electrical. Many for some reason think that new - this is of . Under the electrical music, by the way, to dance most simply. Maybe; therefore it is so popular the medium of young people?
Me exactly seems that it is popular not because it most simply to dance, but because it bears another energy. Before always the young people tried its energy to somewhere extend any new direction before the music - was more energetic - the same jazz and fate- n roll.
wrote (a):
DJ driven out contemporary compositions must be not of those considerations, that music is beautiful, but from those so that the rhythmic structure of tango would be expressed. Cannot be otherwise danced practically.
Me they recently requested to place to pair dance under . It was necessary to extend the mass of efforts in order to explain that this is practically impossible.
Here it would like to comprehend it goes speech - - these are still after all tango music - against foundation of which it is laid - although is changed, tango structure. (the same , the same , the same hybrid of tango) moreover let us say the tango of is almost before all things of or , but to dance is desirable far from all; therefore better nevertheless that the beautiful, which originally adjusts for the movement beside the music.
But concerning - so this is not . And with the selection of music for - is better to drive out something more less coinciding according to the structure and the rhythmic figure for the sake of the tango. Although personally I use never music on … almost





wrote (a):
2. question Of uno of mas. In what year from your point of view is finished the tango and based on what year does begin not for the sake of tango?





Thanks, at the point of your remarkable question!





My personal opinion (after post from 17.01.06) was not changed - the Golden Age of tango according to the majority of sources - beginning/middle of the 30th and beginning/the middle of the 50th. WITH MY (as was set a question!) the point of view by the latter, who wrote and fulfiled authentic, if you wish in a sense esoteric tango it was . Di Sarli.





, based on its side as men also dancing, would wish to specify, what precisely tango “is less emotional, is more . ”?

I simply breathed out. It means nevertheless tango it did not die, but lives and is developed, and entire expressed altogether only a question of personal predilections. Then a question.
Let us leave for the moment lovers before the rest, let they dance to itself before the basements (in order air not to spoil). But here, but suddenly the cenosts of the lovers of classics is also not uniform. This I can say majority they divide music beside the classical and . Difference is already too obvious in order not to distinguish. To us on the whole without the difference, majority generally before the rhythm does not fall. But it is here beside LA the people more educated before this meaning, and band from band differs and it voices its commentaries. In them there its of . Someone does not love ', while someone considers it shrill Of , but to someone it is boring under . Yes agreeably dancing, there taxi drivers the also completely educated people, and not all love .
What zh then to make, if latter classical, but categorically not before your taste? Really to go away?!!!!!
But I can say what do we have on very frequently and without everyone very often directly based on very first above the such, which me to howl is desirable. From where only this music is taken , you are surprised.
I am simple about the fact that if me something does not please from the fact that occurs on , then this my. But it pleases someone, here, for example, to di Jay. The very same it placed. And if there are people on the dance floor, then it is probable by them also. And that to me to make? But nothing, to respect others and peacefully to overstay or home to go. But to have a dance, when I hear my dear music.
If dance floor becomes empty, then yes majority it does not it is apparent that please. Then it is possible to draw. But if music resounds, people dance, then it is necessary to respect their law to receive based on pleasure.
Uno Of mas it wrote “ they must have the right to dance to the end of , but not to go away (or to charge, as it is proposed) on the middle. It is here , , perhaps, will extend! I thank at the point of the understanding.”
If the lovers of classics must to the latter chord dance under the dear music, then where then to dance to the lovers of new music?
I, by the way, music love to dance very different. It depends on partner, place and mood.





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However, when I hear the execution of Bach (Bach), frame (Rameu), (Couperrin) (and so forth) before the manner of the period “of romantics”, on top of that on the piano, I on captivity very often draw parallels between Firpo, Canaro, Calo, De Caro (etc.) and the c “developed tango”
You will forgive, certainly old man, you and really such ? I not according to well, so simply I request…. I personally prefer romantic interpretations and it is not confident, which generally someone actually plays since they played in 17-18 centuries. There are some substantiated representations, but neither tools nor real understanding AS they played. Well, this my especially personal…
K.





Anonymous wrote (a):
You will forgive, certainly old man, you and really such ? I not according to well, so simply I request….
Well, this my especially personal…
Well, old man! Nothing- nothing, I myself already now and then feel itself by very mature.
However, I propose to you about the baroque music and the simply especially personal, to meet with me not before the forum, but before the format of personal statements. Of course if you nevertheless decide to be recorded.





Interesting it was to read discussion. Theme timely is ticklish.
Impression was added, that of tango people absorb somewhat narrowly. Generally, it seems to me that this term more greatly is suitable for the style of of tango, but not for the music. T to music is more greatly divided (at least before my amateurish understanding) beside the classical of tango music (which was originally written for the tango), (contemporary music of tango, i.e., for example contemporary author's , which they write itself for the sake of other tango music) and the alternative music (i.e. music of any other genre, which it is suitable on the rhythm for the interpretation through the tango- language, simply stated, tango/watz/milonga of danceable.). Beautiful contemporary processing as far as the classical of the tango of music (successful recordings of the contemporary bands, which they play tango) can be attributed both to the first and to the second group. Still it is possible to separate separately interesting or uninteresting music (by the way both classical and alternative, and version), under which it is heavy or it cannot be danced to mean statistical , but it, it occurs, firmly they place on , and not as cortins.
in connection with this, I would share beside the classical and the alternative (but not down ).





Talent naturally is also necessary to feel dance floor, in order to understand as necessary against the given moment to change mood, to raise or to decrease build up, rate, rhythm and the like to a certain degree akin to installation before the film, it is possible to completely in different ways arrange accents. Someone knows how this to make before the current of one , someone succeeds in organically building entire , while someone not at all can nothing feel or is madly conservative .
I relate down those , which prefer to dance under a good alternative music, well or on with its preponderance. But here such an experience happened in me. This was before in the cafe Ada (for those dedicated, before the lower hall), small retro of , based on three sides mounts, with the fourth the department of . There was above it DJ Of mariposa from Cologne. Very dear young fellow, we with it made friends, when it transported me beside Cologne after , music pleased me madly at first. T on was few familiar to me people, well, I think, although music good I will listen to… But soon, I began to understand, that something here not thus. And that much grow prettier and the dear music also it can be badly. However I loved familiar and not familiar to me alternative melodies, but they were such bright and self-sufficient that this greatly clashed with the simple modest old-fashioned atmosphere of this small . And certainly, they were terribly assembled. Yes will forgive me wonderful . But he is very pleasant person, and if there was there only traditional music, it would be nauseating. there can be simply this it did not coincide with the quite and the people… But I with the pleasure would converge even on his , in Cologne they speak there is. by the way, before was nevertheless very successful for me, within midnight I danced hours 1.5-2.5 (but it can be and more, I do not remember) with one and the same by the partner (even name I do not remember), and for us it already only played its folly. my poor pedicles! late changed clothes, everything down of 9! usually even 3 I do not maintain.
Recently I was on one measure and she danced 4 days only under the alternative music - this it was certainly musical paradise! I carried out an dream and for the first time itself several hours. Kneadings is certain without the laptop computer, it fussed much, but pleasure! Especially when you they fit and tell before thanks and the like you you see that it guessed mood, emotional peaks. Was placed in essence alternative music, but also a little beautiful traditional. But I comprehended that it is very important to be able to balance the moods: when it is necessary “to crank up” or “to kill”. Good much exists the styles of different and music.
Important also so that the people of each other would feel, and on alternative especially. So that they would be up to date in the fact that is named floor of craft, well or they knew how to from other reckless pairs, that whether… Once, when I arrived down purely alternative in Holland i suddenly became very ridiculously. it is unexpectedly ridiculous. It can be, mood was good, I do not know. It is simple, it seemed that I in the mad house. And all is all around happy. In reality, people simply made that they wished, and even elderly novices improvised, and space a little this allowed. Toward the end certain became much more safely, novices went away, more responsible people remained and for me this was one of best before the life. This is named the taboo of tango, it passed earlier beyond latter Friday of the month (I do not know, as in this year) it is located before the house, beside it is more frequent the scaffolding (I do not advise to reach by night before the vehicle with those, who do not know road), the wonderful round dance floor with two scenes to the left and to the right, many candles, masters - and Paul, wonderful people, my good friends now. there was from Berlin (now he has its Of ballhaus Of mitte on Tuesdays, glance if it will be possibility, I think you will not be sorry). Music was excellent, and it was pleased to me, which was a little (percentages 10-20) traditional music, which balanced well remaining.
Certainly, in alternative must be its dancing audience. If people, which will not take out this music or will not take out under it to dance, come,